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Join the Debate – the ‘Freedom Proposals’ and the ‘Money Solution’.

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From: Barry & Ann Williams-Davis To: John Robertson

Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 1:34 AM

Subject: Re: CIR

Dear John

Thankyou for your letter and ideas for a positive and just South Australia. Please elaborate on your knowledge of SA Law not being just; being politically unjust etc. What is your background. Do you wish to know mine? In relation to wind farms and transfer of sea water inland and thus to adaptations to climate what credentials do you have? All ideas appear plausible however. More info much appreciated.

Cheers Barry

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Hello Barry

I will answer briefly in this email and refer you to my websites and other sites for more in-depth information.

Yes I would like to know your background.

SA Law and my background.

JR Export Pty Ltd (JRE) was the family company I created around 1958 when I was manufacturing Roulf Fluorescent Lights.

By 1974 JRE had become an export consultant with about 100 clients in syndicates and companies exporting SA opal and wine. A person wanted me to have my clients spend about $30,000 promoting the export of his product and threatened to cause my business harm if I refused. I did not take him seriously and put the incident out of my mind. Around May 1974 someone wrote a poison pen letter to the Adelaide Taxation Office (ATO) causing a tax investigation attack on my 100 clients.

Around 1976 an unofficial test case went before the Taxation Board of Review and I was the main witness for one of my clients. In those years export incentives were in the form of income tax rebates. To deny the tax incentives to my clients the ATO made up the false story that 'it is all Robertson's business.' The hearing was going badly for the ATO until their QC pulled on a deceptive stunt and got away with it.

The QC had asked me questions relating to accounting records belonging to my clients and I responded that they were not my records. The QC had to overcome my evidence which was that JRE, my consulting business, was my business and that the exporting of products, opal and wine, was the business of my client.

The stunt the QC pulled was to pick up a piece of paper and say he would READ the EXACT words he had READ earlier; he then did read exactly, but earlier he HAD NOT read exactly. The words were different. At the time the QC fooled everyone and I was ORDERED by the Chairman to give evidence on my client's records. The QC went on to successfully argue that my client's business was my business and win the case for the ATO.

That Decision flowed on to my 100 clients to cost them about $400,000. Most of them ceased exporting. JRE and my other businesses were destroyed. 2 or 3 months after the QC's stunt I managed to get hold of a copy of the transcript to read the 'exact' words spoken by the QC and about 4 years later I obtained a copy of the piece of paper the QC used to perform his stunt.

In 1983 I put a submission to Premier Bannon and Attorney General Sumner seeking damages from the SA Government and I arranged with a Sydney QC that he would settle my several claims against the ATO and others and represent me in the SA Supreme Court. The response from Sumner was to give his special approval for the SA Corporate Affairs Commission (CAC) to prosecute me in the Magistrates Court out of time, for aiding and abetting a client breach the SA Companies ACT. The Sydney QC told me that obtaining a criminal conviction against me was a perfect defence to my various Civil claims for damages.

The CAC Investigator who was their main witness interviewed me and then rewrote some pages of the interview. She denied her rewriting to the Magistrate when my QC put that to her. Her evidence was accepted and I lost - to be jailed for 2 months and so lose my opportunity to succeed in my claims for damages. The SA Police investigated my complaint that the CAC Investigator had committed perjury and after forensic testing proved my memory was right, the Police put the case to the Crown Prosecutor - who then refused to prosecute the CAC Investigator.

I left Caloote on the River Murray in 1988 and went to Far North Queensland. Prior to leaving, Peter Lewis took notice of my matter and tried to assist. I kept in touch with Peter and he asked Attorney General Griffin to assist me. Griffin suggested I get legal assistance to apply to the SA Governor for my conviction to be quashed. Peter Lewis had earlier fruitlessly supported my application for legal aid

When the ATO struck like a bolt of lightning in 1974 my family owned hoses at Dulwich and Wellington, an opal mining and dam-making bulldozer and low loader and I had about $100,000 on bank fixed deposit. One house was saved but the rest went in legal costs leaving me with just a few thousand dollars and not able to sensibly legally pursue the quashing..

Prior to September 11, I was putting together a personal submission to the SA Governor; I diverted into writing a Film Screenplay, Pulse. Then I searched via email for a literary agent. I have been living in Essex UK for the past 3 1/2 years and through family letters learned of Peter Lewis becoming Speaker and emailed him my congratulations.

I see that Peter's Compact should cause CIR to be introduced into SA, hence my email to you.

I will return to working on my personal submission to the SA Governor for the quashing of my conviction so that I have exhausted all avenues open to me. Of course, if that final step bears fruit, it will be proven that the existing SA Law is good after all and that a SA Human Rights Law is not needed after all.

Meanwhile, I see that under Human Rights Law everyone is entitled to a fair hearing. My client did not receive a fair hearing when the QC pulled his deception stunt at the tax hearing and I did not receive a fair hearing when the CAC main witness perjured herself to have me jailed.

It is not safe to be active in business in SA. That would change with a SA Human Rights Law OR if it can be seen that, by following Common Law to the end of the road and appealing to the Governor, justice is done.

Windfarms

In 1983, in response to a leaflet printed by the Tonkin Government seeking ideas from the public on ways to boost the SA economy, I proposed what I called 'The Opal Lands Waterway.' Later I saw that my proposal was along the lines of the earlier Bradfield Scheme. Lake Eyre could be filled from Spencer Gulf or by diverting Queensland's Burdekin and Herbert rivers inland. Over the years I have traveled extensively by light aircraft and car over the area. More recently I have taken an interest in wind power and hydrogen fuel production.

Only last week I visited a windpower exhibition just down the road. About 2 years from now a large offshore windfarm on Gunfleet Sands will be visible from where I live. Windfarms in the UK are already tourist attractions. I was told that the turbines have a 25 year life with the capital cost (about £1m per turbine) being recovered in 10 years and the next 15 years being 'free electricity'. There is plenty of hands-on expertise over here to call upon.

My particular expertise

Interestingly, it was back in my manufacturing days, about 1964, that a very decent, knowledgeable and helpful Taxation Officer told me how the banking industry really works - they create money by lending out on overdraft 10 X , 20 X or even much more, than the money deposited with them. The money printed by the government mint is only the 'small change'. This knowledge allowed me to quickly build my export consulting business.

Later, after the QC's tax case stunt I gradually ran out of money and spent much time in the Adelaide and Sydney Law Libraries to learn what law I could. I appeared for some of my clients in follow-on Taxation Board of Review cases and Administrative Appeals Tribunal cases. I appeared for myself in the SA Supreme Court and the High Court of Australia ( where I had one good win). The QC became a SA Supreme Court Judge. The conduct of his fellow judges in my civil claims against him for damages showed that the SA Courts are corrupt. All of that tax, law and bank experience, coupled with John Hewson's campaign for Goods and Services Tax, caused me to invent, in 1990, what I called 'The Money Solution'.

Taxing the turnover of money is so efficient it could eliminate the whole tax industry and provide a great boost to the economy. Casino tax is a turnover tax. There are other examples. 1% on all credits and all debits would be an over-collection and therefore a South Australian Savings Plan. SA would then earn 1% on the surplus tax money lent to the banks. The banks could easily lend at 3% to all credit-worthy windfarm operators. Linking hydrogen fuel production to windfarms is such a big potential industry that SA would hardly need anything else.

Perhaps there is an even better potential industry needing a large amount of capital money, but nothing worthwhile will ever happen in SA again until the economy is put right with the Money Solution.

When you look at the references listed below please treat them as my working notes and not final submissions.

Peter Lewis' Compact provides the opportunity for loyal South Australians to sort out their ideas, and when fine tuned, to get appropriate legislation via CIR. It's up to us now. For my part, I will do a fresh WebPage as soon as I can to help get some common ground for a constructive CIR petition. We need a combined effort, I am years behind my targets and hope Peter's push for CIR will bring my self-appointed work to fruition. A public debate is needed to improve upon the opening suggestions put in my email to you..

So please tell me about yourself and your own special projects.

Regards

John

PULSE Film Script (seeking a literary agent)http://www.robertsonj32.freeserve.co.uk/PULSEfilmscript.htm#PULSE_film

Working Notes of my second sitehttp://www.robertsonj32.freeserve.co.uk/index.html#Money

Working Notes of my first site. http://freedomsolution.info

UK wind powerhttp://www.bwea.com/

US Hydrogen sitehttp://www.robertsonj32.freeserve.co.uk/hydrogen.htm#Hydrogen

Letter from Peter Lewis to Hon Trevor Griffin MLC Attorney General

Letter from Hon Trevor Griffin MLC Attorney General to J Robertson

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From:Barry & Ann Williams-Davis barann@hotkey.net.au

02 July 2002 14:46

John. It took some time for me to get back into your material. Right! I found your background and background to SA Law case(s) very interesting / enlightening and disturbing. The Peter Lewis connection was explained by doing so. At the moment Peter appears to be considering resigning from his govt. role to prevent going into bankrupcy. I'm sure you are aware what is happening. Perhaps there is light at the end of the tunnel, some technicality or legal/juridical quirk he may be planning in order to get back into the important role he has held for so short a time. Is there any hope of a CIR and Human Rights Act occurring if Bob Such replaces him. I presume there has been too much done to reverse at least some constitutional change procedure.

I will study your windpower and hydrogen power proposals again on the limited info you provide. Re- the 1% tax idea; I am aware of a similar idea proposed by the UN. The PULSE movie is also interesting.

I provide a brief cv. I hold various qualifications in photography, commercial photography, fine arts, tv and associated video production, minilabs. I also have worked in mining, in particular, materials research and assay, plant operations, toxic site revegetation. I have qualifications in horticulture, natural resource management and environmental management; an unfinished degree in Science (botany/ecology) and am concurrently completing an Applied Science degree in Environmental Management (Biodiversity). I also hold a Bach. of Education. I have been offered entry into a MA (fine) and am currently on the Merit list for the Env. Man. degree. I am 51 years old and parttime employed as a facilitator for an private enterprise ecotourism business. On the otherhand, I can expect work occasionally as a lecturer/demonstrator via TAFE or at Adelaide uni. I have my cv accepted with PPK (international consultants). I have also been accepted into a private enterprise enterprenuerial course but had to refuse owing to being nonfinancial and unable to pay the fee (the majority being covered by a grant). I have also applied (5-6 years ago) to do Adelaide uni's post-grad. enterpreneurial course. My business plan was not accepted but I won a free business plan so I may reapply later. I have particular interests in limited edition as well as a commercial line of cast glass products with distribution via supermarkets, upmarket stores and specialist venues.

My other idea has more global applications: climate change, biodiversity, seed bank, fire management, tourism, community owned forestry and forest products (foods, timber, drugs, etc.).

The former involves fullsize nude female statues and sets of large glass cauldrons; the latter ex-situ synthetic rainforest ecosystems. These rainforests have the potential to alter climate, alter soils, act as better efficient C-sinks than the current eucalypt and associated 'accepted native vegetation' choice, and arrest dryland salinity. My area of expertise from my studies at the two unis is in this newly developing science of synthetic ecosystem management. I am aware of an international conference currently being held in Qld (which I must get hold of ) stressing the urgency to rapidly expand rainforest habitats.

Concerning your interests in wind generators or saltwater turbines.

You indicate a 25 year lifetime of wind or water turbine or generators. This I believe is a reliable working period for most power station whether this be wind, water, fossil fuel or nuclear. I personally think any attempt to divert freshwater from one river into another would not be sustainable and would likely prove an environmental or ecological handicap. I believe you would have a better chance of diverting sea water into inland salt lakes. The chance of upsetting the ecology of land borne hypersaline organisms would likely be lower than the reverse, given the volumes of inflow against resident lakewater.

Can anyone be confident of wind or temperature ranges at land locations for the near future (say 25 years away?). Am I correct in saying that wind generation can only provide at best only 10% of the world's power? I am of the opinion that tide and other forms of wave or hydro-generated power sources are increasingly becoming nonsustainable or unpopular. It is probably likely that world power production will continue to increase beyond the finite threshold capable from wind generated power, however, this nonetheless would provide a healthy future for wind generation investors par se.

I have strong reason to believe that nuclear power generation (in whatever form fission or fusion) will ultimately lock in at around 2030 - 50 This is reported by a UN document I own.

I have studied Env. Law, and Law generally at Local govt., State, Commonwealth and International level. I have a high distinction for Public and Private Systems (Env. Politics). I am currently studying Australian Politics and Economics, and Aboriginal Australia. I am also the Treasurer and Secretary for my local Ratepayers Association and am considering a court case against my council. Peter Lewis has been of some assistance up until his troubles with the SA Liberals and his business involvement with the acclaimed conman, name not forthcoming.

I believe I have skills which would be of value to you. I have studied the PULSE idea from a scripting point of view however my experience is probably not enough. Given time I could produce a reasonable story. I will say however that I was lucky enough to show acclaimed film writer and author Colin Thiele and his publisher some photographs I took of some now deceased local elderly couple. I also had a sample of written work. They were both of the opinion then, some twenty years ago, that I should be producing a book, novel and or just photos. I have done very little about it except that all remaining brothers and sisters are alive and well and living only 70 kilometres way. So later interviews are very feasible.

I need more time to digest all your material. Thanks for providing background material. Cheers Barry.

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03 July 2002 16:02

Hello Barry,

Thanks for your email. Over here in UK no SA news comes through except for news of escapes from Woomera. I will check The Advertiser on the Internet for stories on Peter Lewis. Meanwhile, I have no idea of the situation you refer to in your first para; could you give me a bit more info.

Attached is a negative view of CIR published by the Guardian (which I guess is Communist based).

From what I had gleaned from the internet it appeared that Peter Lewis had secured an agreement for CIR to be properly examined and likely to be used. If Peter loses his key position I see the possibility of South Australia returning to being hopeless and not a place that is safe to live in.

On the optimistic side, the Guardian reports that Dr Such strongly favours CIR and so does Alexander Downer. I have had a few discussions with Alexander but know nothing of Bob Such. CIR is a bigger concept than any personality and if Bob Such presses on with CIR than it could be that Peter Lewis has already successfully done his job.

I need to carefully study the rest of your most informative email and will reply to that soon.

Regards

John

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04 July 2002 00:47

Hi again Barry,

I have inserted comments into your message.

----- Original Message -----

From:Barry & Ann Williams-Davis

To:John Robertson

Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 2:46 PM

Subject: Re: CIR

Resigning would provide Peter with a lump sum of money

to prevent going into bankrupcy. I'm sure you are aware what is happening. Perhaps there is light at the end of the tunnel, some technicality or legal/juridical quirk he may be planning in order to get back into the important role he has held for so short a time. Is there any hope of a CIR and Human Rights Act occurring if Bob Such replaces him. I presume there has been too much done to reverse at least some constitutional change procedure.

There is still hope for CIR in SA, but the attack on Peter Lewis is a setback.

I provide a brief cv. I hold various qualifications in photography, commercial photography, fine arts, tv and associated video production, minilabs.

As far as I know, you are my first PULSE reader. Do you have any ideas/graphics that could be inserted to grab public interest? As soon as I have my websites tidied up I will write PULSE 2 - CIR. Western Australia has a scheme to help filmmakers. SA at Hendon does something for filmmakers. Perhaps we can work out a joint venture.

I also have worked in mining, in particular, materials research and assay, plant operations, toxic site revegetation. I have qualifications in horticulture, natural resource management and environmental management; an unfinished degree in Science (botany/ecology) and am concurrently completing an Applied Science degree in Environmental Management (Biodiversity). I also hold a Bach. of Education. I have been offered entry into a MA (fine) and am currently on the Merit list for the Env. Man. degree. I am 51 years old and parttime employed as a facilitator for an private enterprise ecotourism business. On the otherhand, I can expect work occasionally as a lecturer/demonstrator via TAFE or at Adelaide uni. I have my cv accepted with PPK (international consultants). I have also been accepted into a private enterprise enterprenuerial course but had to refuse owing to being nonfinancial and unable to pay the fee (the majority being covered by a grant). I have also applied (5-6 years ago) to do Adelaide uni's post-grad. enterpreneurial course. My business plan was not accepted but I won a free business plan so I may reapply later. I have particular interests in limited edition as well as a commercial line of cast glass products with distribution via supermarkets, upmarket stores and specialist venues.

Are you producing the glass products? In 1972 I did some minor marketing of SA glass art to London.

My other idea has more global applications: climate change, biodiversity, seed bank, fire management, tourism, community owned forestry and forest products (foods, timber, drugs, etc.).

Concerning your interests in wind generators or saltwater turbines.

You indicate a 25 year lifetime of wind or water turbine or generators. This I believe is a reliable working period for most power station whether this be wind, water, fossil fuel or nuclear. I personally think any attempt to divert freshwater from one river into another would not be sustainable and would likely prove an environmental or ecological handicap. I believe you would have a better chance of diverting seawater into inland salt lakes. The chance of upsetting the ecology of land borne hyper-saline organisms would likely be lower than the reverse, given the volumes of inflow against resident lake water.

A Cairns marine-biologist gave me the same view in 1992

Can anyone be confident of wind or temperature ranges at land locations for the near future (say 25 years away?). Am I correct in saying that wind generation can only provide at best only 10% of the world's power? I am of the opinion that tide and other forms of wave or hydro-generated power sources are increasingly becoming non-sustainable or unpopular. It is probably likely that world power production will continue to increase beyond the finite threshold capable from wind generated power, however, this nonetheless would provide a healthy future for wind generation investors par se.

I have strong reason to believe that nuclear power generation (in whatever form fission or fusion) will ultimately lock in at around 2030 - 50 This is reported by a UN document I own.

Court cases are unsafe; you may have a perfectly good case but that does not mean you will win. Best to walk away if you can.

We have many similar interests - if we could knock PULSE into a commercial product we could make some good money and raise public awareness. I want to float a Public Company, but first I need a sufficiently good product.

Thanks for your interest

John

I need more time to digest all your material. Thanks for providing background material. Cheers Barry.

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-----Original Message-----
From: John Robertson <john@robertsonj32.freeserve.co.uk>
To: Barry & Ann Williams-Davis <barann@hotkey.net.au>
Date: Saturday, July 06, 2002 9:45 PM
Subject: joint authorship PULSE

Hello Barry

With many of your interests being similar to mine I am wondering if you would like to co-write Pulse.

Having looked harder at CIR and Peter Lewis I can see that much time will pass before SA effectively uses CIR. Also, some money will be needed to promote the Freedom Proposals and for our living costs. A Public Corporation is a straightforward way to achieve results.

So we need a good product(s) from which a Corporation could make a profit.

Suppose you edited PULSE and also added some of your ideas/graphics/etc and I added our co-work to my website, we could share the income from a filmmaker 50/50. If such income is earned I would use most of my share to float the Corporation. You could do likewise if you wanted to.

In any event I plan to write PULSE 2 CIR, tidy my websites and do some email marketing. That will keep me busy.

If your interested please let me know.

Regards

John

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Keep me interested. Provide more info about yourself, credentials, etc. What are my guarantees? Formal or informal contract obligations, etc.

I have a very good network in most areas.

Q: Can I do glass work?

Ans: I did a very brief glassblowing / glass casting and other glass technique course some 4 years ago. I have done some research into what kilns are available here and technical stuff. I am going to speak with a renowned glass sculpture expert soon who can provide me with all the necessities to set the project up.

I also have a technician friend who can make anything required to get the project on the road.

Regards the rainforest idea I have a contact who specialises in GIS and mapmaking. I have heard more about the Int. Canopy Conference currently held in Qld. It could be worthwhile getting hold of the papers.

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Will respond. Very busy week. News about Peter Lewis having to water down his police corruption investigation. My current uni studies would be some help to this PULSE idea. Cheers Barry

-----Original Message-----
From: John Robertson <john@robertsonj32.freeserve.co.uk>
To: Barry & Ann Williams-Davis <barann@hotkey.net.au>
Date: Sunday, July 28, 2002 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: joint authorship PULSE

Hello Barry,

To answer your email I worked on my web sites. I will comment in larger font.

Regards

John

----- Original Message -----

From: Barry & Ann Williams-Davis

To: John Robertson

Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 2:17 PM

Subject: Re: joint authorship PULSE

Hello Barry

With many of your interests being similar to mine I am wondering if you would like to co'write Pulse.

Having looked harder at CIR and Peter Lewis I can see that much time will pass befor SA effectively uses CIR. Also, some money will be needed to promote the Freedom Proposals and for our living costs. A Public Corporation is a straight forward way to achieve results.

http://www.robertsonj32.freeserve.co.uk/p1s6.htm

you find

PULSE Ethical Transparent Public Corporation

So we need a good product(s) from which a Corporation could make a profit.

In any event I plan towrite PULSE 2 CIR, tidy my websites and do some email marketing. That will keep me busy.

http://www.robertsonj32.freeserve.co.uk/Complete%20Retirement%20Plan/PULSE%202%20CIR%20the%20love%20story.htm

If your interested please let me know.

Regards

John

Keep me interested. Provide more info about yourself, credentials, etc.

I topped my classes at Campbelltown Primary and Prince Alfred College but left PAC at age 14 due to my father's serious rupture. If you look at the High Court and Administrative Appeals Tribunal passages you'll see some background. I am a natural entrepreneur and with Enron type shocks, Retirement pension uncertainties, MLM an with increasing Green awareness, I see an opportunity for floating one or more Ethical Transparent Public CorporationsMy idea is to make a full and true disclosure of the accounts, contracts, etc on the internet to set a paradigm for corporate operations. Once I get started I will be aiming to have the Corporation(s) stronger than South Australia, (that shouldn't be too hard!)

What are my guarantees? Formal or informal contract obligations, etc.

I wrote the contract terms straight intoPULSE 2 CIR

John: ‘OK.I’ll write out the Plan of Action;

Delegate the finishing off of the PULSE film script to others

Publish each version of PULSE on my websites

Profit sharing is equal between the script-writers of the script that is accepted by a literary agent who successfully contracts with a film maker

Suppose A co-writes with me, the sharing is 50/50

Suppose B co-writes with me, the sharing is 50/50

Suppose C co-writes with A and me, the sharing is one third each

Suppose D co-writes with B and me, the sharing is one third each

Suppose E co-writes with A, C and me, the sharing is one quarter each

And so on, until a film is made.

I will use e-mail to multi-level-market my websites until 100,000 people confirm their interest in one aspect or another.

When there are 100,000 interested people we will form a Public Corporation to instal and own Windfarms to sell electricity and hydrogen at a profit.

The Windfarm installations will be offered to States and Nations that have effective Citizens Initiated Referenda.

The Windfarm potential is huge, making the Public Corporation an excellent Retirement investment.

I have a very good network in most areas.

Q: Can I do glass work?

I also have a technician friend who can make anything required to get the project on the road.

I am starting with E-commerce (MLM) and 'PULSE film script' for products as I can sell and deliver them from my computer. Once I have a Public Corporation making a profit with those products we can get serious about glass, windfarms etc.

As above

All the best,

John

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